Our Stakes Have A Better Grade Of Lumber – STAKEMILL

November 18, 2010

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UPDATE AUGUST 2011 – We have been informed the stake company operating out of the Sanford/Orlando Airport Commerce Park known on the web as www.floridasurveystakes.com has ceased its cutting operations, something we see all to often. This may be the tenth time in this blog  that we have mentioned we feel for them as this is our industry and we have said for the last ten years that it was an over supplied industry. What can you do to better yourself? Ask to see your stake suppliers cutting operation, Stakemill has been cutting wood stakes since 1978.  The entire time Stakemill has been located in Largo, all while acquiring other stake producers around Florida and their equipment.  Stakemill was purchased by Bay Pines Investments in the late 1980′s and I personally have been here running the saws, delivering stakes and supplies and making the day-to-day decisions since that time.  No one wants to be in an industry where failure is the norm, but cutting wood stakes in a garage, back yard, under a pole barn with a sprinkler cooling off the galvanized roof is not a real business.  I hope the land surveyors and road builders have learned by now to look into who cuts their wood stakes, anyone who can get into this business in a weekend can get out of this business in a weekend as well, can you rely on your supplier packing up that easy?

www.floridasurveystakes.com

www.floridasurveystakes.com

ORIGINAL ENTRY FROM NOVEMBER 18, 2010

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Recently it has been brought to our attention a Florida stake producer claims to use a “better wood”, this information has been established in just a few years of operation over others with close to four decades of cutting experience.  That has intrigued us, so we wanted to share with you information you can find easily on the net.  Then we will give you our opinion after being in this business for over thirty some years.

Basically there are two ways to dry lumber once it has been cut down. The first and oldest way is to air dry and the second is to Kiln dry or heat the lumber.   When you air dry lumber you must be experienced and have the proper moisture reading equipment, plus you are at the mercy of Mother Nature.  When you heat-treat lumber you can then stamp the lumber so it is certified usable in the building industry, heat treating or kiln drying heats the wood to a set temperature for a set period of time decided by such organizations as the Southern Pine Timber Council assuring you get the same bug and disease free lumber every time.  Air drying or Green Lumber will vary much like the talent at Open Mic Night at your local comedy club, sometimes you will like it sometimes you will not.  When your business counts on stakes like most land surveyors, engineers and road builders do you want the same product every time, you can’t get one bundle that weighs 20 pounds and the next five weigh 30 pounds, those extra pounds mean water.  That water leads to fungus, it gives bugs a home, when you store this wood in your office, inside garage or even your vehicle the last thing you want is bugs being introduced to your work environment or adding 100+ pounds to your vehicle that is already loaded down hindering your fuel economy.

Direct from Wikipedia – WOOD DRYING

Why Kiln Drying or Heat Treating Provides a Better Grade of Lumber

Kiln drying provides a means of overcoming the limitations imposed by erratic weather conditions. In kiln drying as in air drying, unsaturated air is used as the drying medium. Almost all commercial timbers of the world are dried in industrial kilns. A comparison of air drying, conventional kiln and solar drying is given below:

  1. Timber can be dried to any desired low moisture content by conventional or solar kiln drying, but in air drying, moisture contents of less than 18% are difficult to attain for most locations.
  2. The drying times are considerably less in conventional kiln drying than in solar kiln drying, followed by air drying.
    1. This means that if capital outlay is involved, this capital is just sitting there for a longer time when air drying is used. On the other hand, installing an industrial kiln, to say nothing of maintenance and operation, is expensive.
    2. In addition, wood that is being air-dried takes up space, which could also cost money.
  3. In air drying, there is little control over the drying elements, so drying degrade cannot be controlled.
  4. The temperatures employed in kiln drying typically kill all the fungi and insects in the wood if a maximum dry-bulb temperature of above 60 °C is used for the drying schedule. This is not guaranteed in air drying.
  5. If air drying is done improperly (exposed to the sun), the rate of drying may be overly rapid in the dry summer months, causing cracking and splitting, and too slow during the cold winter months.

The significant advantages of conventional kiln drying include higher throughput and better control of the final moisture content. Conventional kiln and solar drying both enable wood to be dried to any moisture content regardless of weather conditions. For most large-scale drying operations solar and conventional kiln drying are more efficient than air drying.

Classification of timbers for drying

The timbers are classified as follows according to their ease of drying and their proneness to drying degrade:

  1. Highly refractory woods: These woods are slow and difficult to dry if the final product is to be free from defects, particularly cracks and splits. Examples are heavy structural timbers with high density such as ironbark (Eucalyptus paniculata), blackbutt (E. pilularis), southern blue gum (E. globulus) and brush box (Lophostemon cofertus). They require considerable protection and care against rapid drying conditions for the best results (Bootle, 1994).
  2. Moderately refractory woods: These timbers show a moderate tendency to crack and split during seasoning. They can be seasoned free from defects with moderately rapid drying conditions (i.e. a maximum dry-bulb temperature of 85 °C can be used). Examples are Sydney blue gum (E. saligna) and other timbers of medium density (Bootle, 1994), which are potentially suitable for furniture.
  3. Non-refractory woods: These woods can be rapidly seasoned to be free from defects even by applying high temperatures (dry-bulb temperatures of more than 100 °C) in industrial kilns. If not dried rapidly, they may develop discolouration (blue stain) and mould on the surface. Examples are softwoods and low density timbers such as Pinus radiata.

Wood Drying Benefits

Drying, if carried out promptly after felling of trees, also protects timber against primary decay, fungal stain and attack by certain kinds of insects. Organisms, which cause decay and stain, generally cannot thrive in timber with a moisture content below 20%. Several, though not all, insect pests can live only in green timber. Dried wood is less susceptible to decay than green wood is above 20% moisture.

  1. Dried timber is lighter, and the transportation and handling costs are reduced.
  2. Dried timber is stronger than green timber in most strength properties.
  3. Timbers for impregnation with preservatives have to be properly dried if proper penetration is to be accomplished, particularly in the case of oil-type preservatives.
  4. In the field of chemical modification of wood and wood products, the material should be dried to a certain moisture content for the appropriate reactions to occur.
  5. Dry wood works, machines, finishes and glues better than green timber. Paints and finishes last longer on dry timber.
  6. The electrical and thermal insulation properties of wood are improved by drying.

What This Means

As you will read in Wikipedia, air drying lumber takes lots of space and time.  Take it from someone who has been there, sometimes you just have to cut the wood you have on hand, and when that wood is Green you get a rough finish, heavier product, possible insect infested material and it will warp!  We purchase our lumber used to make stakes from the major mills throughout the southeast stakes like Georgia Pacific, Blue Lynx, International Paper, West Frasier and others, these mills are all members of the lumber association and follow the guidelines allowing their product to be used by the consumer. Ask any home center or lumber yard if they sell air-dried lumber.

Our lumber has a moisture content of 13 to 18%, mold grows at 20%, insects infest at those levels as well.

Having purchased more stake producing equipment and or companies than anyone else in the south east states we have seen every possible way of manufacturing wood stakes. We have also heard from these prior business owners what they knew adding to our years of knowledges.  We have even hired owners of failed stake operations to work our production lines and have seen first hand what works and does not work in both lumber and production methods. Stakemill is now looking at buying more stake producing equipment that is once agian sitting.

www.floridasurveystakes.com

www.floridasurveystakes.com


Survey Stakes in Florida

June 29, 2010
Prime Stakes - Now Closed

Prime Stakes - Now Closed

Read our numerous entries about those in the past who have tried to produce wood survey stakes in Florida  Currently we are getting numerous calls from wholesalers wanting cheap stakes to resell to their supply yard customers, these are items that are low-cost, heavy, carry little markup, require handling equipment to move and only allow so much markup before they become priced out of the market, yet these suppliers will continue to scratch their head and try to talk yet another person into producing wood stakes for them without telling them their last three suppliers have gone belly up.

Where are they now?

We can name over a dozen stake companies that have come and gone in the last few years.  Florida land surveyors have been burned too many times by companies promising to supply them with wood stakes and lath.  Lets list a few of them below.

  1. Florida Survey Stakes.com
  2. Affordable Survey Solutions
  3. Prime Stakes
  4. Gulf Coast Survey Supply
  5. Cheap Stakes
  6. Commodore Trading
  7. The Stake Company
  8. Eagle Stakes
  9. Ruffs Saw and Tool
  10. Delray Stake
  11. Jonas Survey Stakes
  12. Southern Stake
  13. BG Stake Company
  14. Stakes-n-Stuff
  15. Florida Survey Supplies
  16. Quest of Orlando
  17. D&G Stake Company
  18. MacDonald Center
  19. B&E Stakes
  20. Goulad Stakes

Ask yourself this simple question “Where was your stake supplier 5 or 10 years ago? Where will they be 15 years from now?”


Brooksville Wood Stake Customers Ask – got wood?

August 29, 2008

got stakes?

The summer of 2008 has been a wet one for Hernando County Surveyors and Contractors in need of a good reliable wood source. Right now everyone understands you take what business comes your way -if it’s new business it is even better. A local sawmill in Brooksville has continually informed their customers they cut outside and can’t work during the rainy weather, we just don’t feel that is fair to do to your regular customers, survey stakes are not a seasonal business to us or to land surveyors, when they need their stakes they need their stakes.  Stakemill also keeps a good inventory level on hand, some of the little guys cut as needed, we were their also.  We want to remind everyone Stakemill is also a small business, but one that realizes to keep your customers you have to predict what inventory levels to keep on hand.  Over the last 20 plus years we have learned more production ways to produce and ways that do not produce.  In other posts we list the number of stake companines that have come and gone - well over a dozen, and that’s just in the central part of Florida.

Stakemill is located in a commercial metal warehouse that allows us to work regardless of the weather, every location we have ever been in and every stake business we have purchased also was located in a commercial complex.

We can show you a few facilities that have no walls and are exposed to the elements and we can also show you numerous customers Stakemill supplies wood to that is within close proximity of these open wall saw mills.

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Stakemill delivers Survey Stakes to Ft Myers, Naples, Bonita Springs and Pt Charlotte customers

June 22, 2008

JUNE 2008 - The Recent closing of Gulf Coast Survey Supply leaves Ft Myers customers out in the cold once again.  From late 2003, mid 2004 and again in late 2007 Ft Myers supplied surveyors and contractors received different quality stakes from Gulf Coast during those time periods.  Those time periods also overlap when two other large stake producers went bust and most recently when thier fourth and final supplier was unable to provide for them due to poor performance.  We can’t empahise enough to land surveyors, road builders and contractors that need wood stakes, be sure to check out your suppliers in house manufacturing abilities. 

Out of Buiness - Gulf Coast Survey Supply

STAKEMILL DELIVERS TO FT MYERS AREA EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY – delivery charges apply

Stakemill adds more Ft Myers, Naples, Bonita Springs & Pt Charlotte customers (Jan 2008 Blog by Stakemill)

Survey Lath

Once more Ft Myers surveyors are in need of a reliable stake supplier.  The Ft Myers supplier has left surveyors in the surrounding areas in 2003 when Delray pulled out and then a second time in 2004 when Component Systems pulled out.  This Ft Myers supplier has actually hurt it’s customers by never fully understanding they were never more than a reseller with no adequate supplier.  They most likely never even toured the facilities operations that supplied them with their wood stakes giving them the knowledge of what was involved in stake production.

We welcome these new customers and want to reiterate the fact the Ft Myers supplier has told the surveyors they formerly delivered.  With todays fuel prices, cost of delivery vehicles, fuel economy of said trucks and human resources to deliver the stakes, it will actually cost us more to service the area.  We will do everything we can to deliver to the Ft Myers area at competitive prices with a quality wood survey stake as we have for the last 20 years.

See our complete line of survey lath, 1×2 stakes and hubs, iron rods, concrete monuments and field supplies at Stakemill.com.


Stakemill offers quality stakes every time

February 5, 2008

Utilizing actual stake production equipment on all of our production lines and not home-made machines, Stakemill continues to make the same high quality stakes as we did years ago by keeping our production line equipment up to date.  Stakemill regularly updates to newer saws identical to the ones we have been using for the last 20 years, these professionally made saws assure us of continued production and satisfied customers.  We even control a production line overseas that uses the machines we housed in both our Largo and Ocala facilities.  Those saws teamed up with an abundant wood source and competitive labor have allowed us to continue cutting all the stakes we need in-house along with bringing in a superior grade stake and hub cut from hard woods.  One fact we are proud of is that we have acquired more stake production companies over the last 20 years than currently exist today in the local area today, a feat we love to brag about.  Stakemill adds more saws

Seen above are the saws Stakemill purchased just outside the Gainesville area in 2006 when a stake company that recently changed hands failed to make ends meet, a sight all to familiar to us.  We have seen more companies come and go over the last 20 years, early 2008 has left Ft Myers surveyors looking for wood stakes again, Stakemill will be there for them again.  We expect 2009 to leave another stake companies equipment going to the auction block.  Stakemill is expecting to buy new equipment in 2009, stake company owners, please contact Sean Scully at 727-538-0886 ext 101 to discuss your surplus equipment or company for sale.


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